In this film, the main character spends almost thirty years trying to win the right to end his life. Give a brief reflection on the film. Was there any way the film uplifted you even though it was a sad topic? Reflect on that question (yes or no, and why). Using your book in Chapter 5, what are some examples of ethical argument(s) that could be used to either grant his wish or deny it? Was there anything that happened in the film that you think should have changed his mind about his decision?
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The Sea Inside movie:
1)I think Ramon was full of life and he didn't need to die, but I understand he was cripple and his spirit was broken mostly to be in a relationship with a woman.
2)It seems when others care for him they become in love with him, which is nature for us human beings.
3)In life we ten to lose one things in life which are dear to us, but life always throw us a curve and make us better in other things. He didn't realize he was helping others with their own problems, and giving them hope to love again.
Yes the movie “Sea Inside” uplifted my knowledge because in life, many people in this world, like this movie for instants does not have an easy life. Like the character in this movie had battled many years with his condition and didn’t want to live it anymore. Sometimes, it is the person’s choice to do whatever they like, when the situation is a very serious matter, like the character’s situation.
I think the character shouldn’t change his mind about his decision, because well, it is his choice to whether he should end his life. I know that it is wrong, but if I were in his position, I would be scared to commit something far taboo than he did, but sometimes you have to do whatever it take to make you feel happy once again if you feel gloomy and depressing. It may hurt the people you love, but if you can’t make yourself happy, how can you make people happy?
Michael K.
I think that this was a great movie. I believe that if I was in the situation that he was in, I don’t think that I would want to go on living. However, the only way for me to make a decision like that, I would have to be in his shoes. I do have a living will that states that if I was in some kind of accident and I was brain dead I do not want to go on living. I know that is a completely different situation than what the man in the movie was, but I do believe that the both situations are very important. Either way I hope that I will never be in either situation in my life.
Unfortunately I wasn't in class last week to see the movie but I figured I would leave a comment on my views about Euthanasia. I think the idea of killing yourself for any reason is ridiculous. Life is something to cherise and not to end for any reason. I can't say much for myself, but I don't know how people who are handicapped or depressed feel. I just can't grasp the idea of self induced death. I know that in some religions it is the highest of all sins and that they would be disowned by there own people.
I thought the movie was really good. I feel that he should've had the right to end his life. Yes, he did many great things like keeping his brother and nephew close, and listening to people's problems, but keeping him alive against his will for those reasons is selfish. He wasn't happy, he couldn't do the things he loved to do anymore, and most importantly to him, he didn't have his freedom.
There was a moment that i thought maybe he would change his mind, when he fell in love, but he couldn't be the lover that he wanted to be and that he thought another would deserve being in his condition. Personally I don't know how I would feel in this situation but I've seen first hand what happens to some people when drastic things like this happen and I think that they should have the right to live or die.
i felt that this was a very good movie, and this reminded myself o the wjole situation with terry schivao. this movie really touched me because thier was a certain situation in my real life that was like the sinereo in the movie. before my grandma died she said that if she couldn't function she didn't want to live. she wanted to make her own actions and not be a robot. so this was very hard for me to watch because i got reminded of when my grandma died, she died right before we had to make a decision of taking out the feeding tube. so i kind of feel different about the story and its ability to let him end his life. i do not agree with suicide but i do believe when people are not in thier normal state of mind they should have a decision wheather or not they choose to make that decision, similar to a living will. i know if i needed someone to wait on me hand and foot i wouldnt like it and i would want to fend for myself.
It was hard to find The Sea Inside very uplifting because from the start of the movie Ramon was accepting death, and you knew that wasn't going to change; but it did successfully open my mind to people who are willing to accept their own mortality.
It gives you the perspective of someone who is completely contempt with ending their time here on this earth; even with the belief that there is no afterlife. It still shocks me that someone who is so uncertain about many things is contempt without knowing or ever figuring out.
I thought he was starting to back out towards the end but he just wanted to try to alleviate his departure. His family knew it was coming and he tried to do it without any of them knowing until it was done.
My biggest argument towards euthanasia is revoking someone right to choose because they've had a crippling accident. That's like punishing the handicap.
A registered sex offender or a serial killer still has the right to determine their own mortality, to determine if their life is worth proceeding, but not someone who is handicap enough they cant physically take their own life.
I'm not promoting suicide, but I am against punishing those who decide to help. As long as it is in a selfless manor and their subject is in his/her right mind, physically can not do it him/herself, and has given up the willingness to live.
-Kevin Mercier
The character in this movie felt that he was a burden to his family. Even though his brother's family took care of him over all of that time there were times when he probably was a burden but they still wanted to be there for him. Sometimes Ramon seemed to not show appreciation for what his family had done for him, but I believe he was just frustrated because he had no control over his life. Even his decision to die.
I believe that the young lady with the children, after time, was uplifted by Ramon. He made her feel important and helped her to understand that she didn't need to stay in bad relationships to be appreciated.
The lawyer that was sent to help Ramon began, after reading his poems was able to relate to his pain and suffering. And even though after the publishing of his book they decided to end each other's life she could not go thru with it. Perhaps she felt guilty for ending a life that she felt needed to live on.
It seemed to me that Ramon had a lot of people that cared for and loved him, but he was set on dying. After an extremely long wait he finally got his wish. D. Hutchins
Danita,
1)The movie "The Sea Inside was a very emotional movie. I thought that Ramon showed his love by sharing his life with others but I felt he was very selfish the same time. Taking his own life hurt others around him and I felt that he could have just stayed alive and gave more of his time and love to ease his pain, especially if he didn't know GOD.
2)The situation of him wanting to die because of his hadicapped condition reminded me of how I was internally before I accepted JESUS. I felt internally paralyzed and I was depressed, angry, bitter, envious, unforgiving, isolated and all of the above. Even with a smile on my face I had a void inside I couldn't quite get my finger on.
3) There is a real live group called the "Final Exit Group" that assist the sick to kill themselves. They go about doing this is by placing a bag over the patients head and filling it with Helium while holding down their hands to restrain them. This discover disturbed and hurt my heart hearing it on the news and if these people only had a personal relationship with JESUS they have total peace, true unconditional LOVE and they would have the power from GOD the gift of healing which no doctor could give. I am a true witness of be healed cause accepting CHRIST I and others christians that believe have this gift and others gifts not "MAGIC", but GOD's power.
4) To gain true LOVE and LIFE I gave of myself, heart, mind, soul, and talents to GOD and I put this filty fleshly desires to DEATH to recieve and spiritual LIFE in GOD I am not ashamed of.
I wasn't here last week, so I missed the movie, so I thought I'd just write down my thoughts on euthanasia, as I'm pretty sure thats what was covered last week.
I think that euthanasia should be legal and the moral concerns should be banished. I mean lets face it, no one knows anyone better than themselves and if they want to die, for one reason or another, as long as what ever they have or have had happened to them is a legit medical reason, then let them die. I mean, who are we to keep them here? Let them go. Don't hold them here in pain an agony just because you think you'll sleep better at night, doing them a favor. You'd be doing them a larger favor by complying with their wishes. It's just the same as unplugging a coma patient from the machines that's keeping him/her alive. They have no say, but all of a sudden you do? Yet you won't listen to someone who can speak for themselves. I won't pity people who think this is wrong, but I do think they need to re-look at the situation and think. If that was you in the situation and you wanted to die and no one would let you, what would you do or say? And don't speak like 'oh I would NEVER do that, even if I were in their situation.' You can't say that because you don't know because you're not in the situation. Don't knock it 'till you've tried it, or 'till you've been there.
This movie was very well done. The idea of euthanasia in this instance I feel was unnecessary because Ramon had a decent life with people who cared about him. I think his desire to kill himself was kind of selfish. Now, I do believe that euthanasia should be allowed but only if the person is in extreme pain. That being said it is possible that Ramon was in extreme emotional pain because of his poor quality of life. In the end my argument is always going to be the same. People should be allowed to do what will make them happy even if that means taking their own life. If a pregnant woman is allowed to put her life in danger to save her child a person with poor quality of life should be able to end theirs.
I think that the sea inside was moving but yet in the same sense it was unmotivating for some quads. This meaning that everyone goes through some type of battle in their life wether its to come out on top or in this case even to try and get mobility in his arms. In this movie I believe that Ramon was a coward and gave up because he cannot get full use of his body. I'm saying this because my uncle went through almost exactly the same obsticales that Ramon did. Except my uncle went through all of this and got mobility back, now he is living day to day in his wheel chair. While he still fights everyday for a normal life, he later got married and ended up having a family granite he cannot reproduce on his own. My uncle pete was 20 years old when his accident happened and he was at his girlfriend of the times' house. He dove into a pool after having a couple drinks and he broke his neck. He was in the hospital for almost a year tryin to recover. Then he went through many years of recovery but now he is trying to live a normal life, even though its in his wheel chair. So saying this I believe that Ramon is a coward and should have tried much harder, and instead of saying that his dignity was taken away he should have tried to take it back. Instead of running from his problems and staying locked away in his bed for almost three decades!!!!
Kristy Killian
The film really did not uplift me that much. I mean i thought it was good for the women that was getting weaker and weaker was finding a way to deal with life and see a positive way of it. but for Ramon, it pisses me off a little bit that he keep pressuring others to let him die. I mean he has his sister in law, brother, father, and others doing so much for him and is doing all of it because they love him and want him here and he is in a way disrepecting them. Like what they are doing is not enough for him. No he doesn't want them to do anything but in reality they do do everything for him and the time that he is a live he disrespects them by wanting to die. They show how much he means to them but him saying that he want to die all the time is showing them that they do not mean that much to him. In the chapter you could say that he is already dead by him not experiencing life and being enmoble, but another way of looking at it is that his heart is beating, his brain is active so he is much alive as everyone else.
This is indeed a dificult subject. I think the most we could really do is ask ourselves what we would do in Ramon's situation. To what point being I be all day, deprived of everything that made you who you where, is staying alive anyway?
This is always a personal decision, dependent on who you are, what you do, what your possibilities are and your view on life and death. However, regardless, we have the moral obligation as an advanced civilization to respect everyone else's view on this matter, even Ramon's.
That, if anything else, is what we should take away from this movie.
I think Ramone was just fighting for the right to die because it was one of the last freedoms he was allowed to pursue. He was a brilliant man that was just spitefull about his life because of his condition and not being able to move. I think that if he spent more time on positive issues he could have made a bigger difference in many more peoples lives. I also wish he would have realized all the good he has done with his life, that might have made a little difference. In the end, it was his choice to live or die and sometimes we need to agree with his wishes because in the end it is his life.
Michael Devoe
I enjoyed the move but thought it was unfair on his part to put that much pressure on his family and the people who cared for him. I know that I wouldn't want to live in the state that he was forced to live in but I would never take it out on my family or ever try to make some one live with the burden of killing me because I wasn't strong enough to do it.
i thougt the movie was horrible a waste of time.. as far as euthinasia goes if someone wants to die why not? let them do what they want they're not hurting anybody else.
Maria Gazabon
Euthenasia
I disagree completely with euthenasia because i think that there is always hope. I had a cousin, that had leukemia and he was to a point were everyone knew that he was to going to die, but we kept having faith and unfortunately, he passed away but that didnt stop our faith. We've wittnessed many cases where after waiting and praying and praying maybe one day, miraculously they get healed. I think this happens because God has a plan for our lives and when we dont accept it he has to put as through unpleasent situations so that we learn.
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